Aired April 20, 2012 – 10:00 ET
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GLADYS ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN’S MOTHER (via telephone): This program started like three years ago and when the problem started, you have to be committed to the program so you have go to classes. And you have to sign like a contract that you will keep on with the program.
With the program was — he sign up for the program, I’m sorry, and because of the economy, it closed after nine months. But George continued with the program. He continued that had whole year and after that year, he kept on with the program.
This was his second year going up to the city of Orlando and taking care of two kids because his wife also mentored. So the couple mentored these two kids for the last two years.
MARK O’MARA, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN’S ATTORNEY: And how old were those children?
ZIMMERMAN: I believe one is — the boy is 14 and I had met them, it they are very nice kids. George tried his best to give help love and teach them, you know — teach them good manners.
They are very lovely kids and they love so much George was George used to go to see them every two weeks, twice a month he would go and see them.
And I had begged George not to go. I’m sorry, I had told my son please don’t go, it’s too dangerous. And he said, mom, if I don’t go, they don’t have nobody.
O’MARA: Why were you concerned about George’s safety in that program?
ZIMMERMAN: Because it was a very dangerous place where he goes to.
O’MARA: A very bad what?
ZIMMERMAN: Dangerous place.
O’MARA: Bad news place?
ZIMMERMAN: Dangerous place. O’MARA: I’m sorry, my apologies.
ZIMMERMAN: That’s OK.
O’MARA: What was the racial background of the two children that he mentored?
ZIMMERMAN: African-American, sir.
O’MARA: Nothing further, your honor.
BERNARDO DE LA RIONDA, ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY: Good morning.
ZIMMERMAN: Good morning, sir.
DE LA RIONDA: I’m Bernardo De La Rionda on behalf of the state of Florida. I just have a few quick questions hopefully. You mentioned that he –
ZIMMERMAN: He tries to protect people.
DE LA RIONDA: And you are aware about this prior case in which he was arrested, right?
ZIMMERMAN: I didn’t hear.
DE LA RIONDA: I turned my back. I apologize. You were aware of the prior case in which he was arrested, were you not?
ZIMMERMAN: Yes, sir, that was in 2005.
DE LA RIONDA: And that was in 2005, have you talked to your son about that?
DE LA RIONDA: When you say your son from an authority standpoint when law enforcement tells him something, he’ll abide by it?
ZIMMERMAN: Yes, he will.
DE LA RIONDA: Why didn’t he heave when the police officer told him to leave?
ZIMMERMAN: George told me he didn’t identify himself as a police officer.
DE LA RIONDA: Did he claim that he was defending himself, too?
ZIMMERMAN: I’m sorry?
DE LA RIONDA: Did he say regarding that arrest incident in 2005 regarding those officers, did he say he, Mr. Zimmerman, say, your son, say he was defending himself?
ZIMMERMAN: I don’t recall that, sir. DE LA RIONDA: And you don’t have any knowledge of the web site, do you in terms of the money?
ZIMMERMAN: No. I know I have seen the letter, but I don’t have any answers to it.
DE LA RIONDA: OK, thank you very much.
ZIMMERMAN: You’re welcome.
O’MARA: Thank you, your honor, for the questions. If I can have –
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can she be excused?
O’MARA: Yes, your honor.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you, ma’am. You’re excused.
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CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: As Mark O’Mara conferred with his client, we’re going to break away again for one minute. We’ll be right back.
COSTELLO: I’m Carol Costello. You’re watching CNN. It’s 10:05 Eastern Time. What you’re watching, these are live events happening from Sanford, Florida in courtroom number five.
And this is a bond hearing for George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman’s attorney, Mark O’Mara asking the judge to set bond so his client can be released until his criminal trial begins.
We heard a lot from Zimmerman’s family. We heard from his mother, Gladys, his father, Robert. We also heard from his wife. None of them seemed to have much money on hand.
Although Gladys Zimmerman that she does have a house. Let’s listen to what Zimmerman’s attorney is talking about right now.
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O’MARA: I would call –
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don’t mean to be rude. It’s your motion, however you think it’s best for you.
O’MARA: Thank you, your honor. I would call either Investigator Osteen or Investigator Dale Gilbreath.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please state your full name for the record and spell your last name.
DALE GILBREATH, INVESTIGATOR, STATE ATTORNEY’S OFFICE: Dale Gilbreath.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: State your occupation, if you will.
GILBREATH: An investigator with the state attorney’s office in Fourth Judicial Circuit.
O’MARA: And you are one of the investigators on this case?
O’MARA: I would you consider yourself one of the lead investigators? How do you determine your involvement, how do you define your involvement?
GILBREATH: I’m one of the two investigators working on the case with the state attorney’s office.
O’MARA: And I note in the file that you brought up with you, did you bring a file with you?
GILBREATH: No, sir, I brought a copy of –
O’MARA: Sorry. Do you have anything other than what you just identify, the probable cause affidavit?
GILBREATH: No reports or anything, no.
O’MARA: Did you bring any supporting documentation with you to the courtroom on his bond motion at all?
GILBREATH: No, I was not planning on testifying.
O’MARA: OK, but you do have the probable cause affidavit?
GILBREATH: I have a copy of it.
O’MARA: I would like to spend a few minutes going over a copy of that, if I might. I’ll try to make it easy for us with the court’s indulgence to use blow up of that. You can see that?
O’MARA: Take a moment just to compare the two to make sure that that is in fact the affidavit that you are reviewing. May I examine the witness from the exhibit?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whatever you’re most comfortable with.
GILBREATH: It appears to be, yes.
O’MARA: At any time during this examination you’re concerned that the probable cause affidavit that you have is different than the one I’m examining from, let me know. Starts out with two or three paragraphs preparatory telling the magistrate, the judge, who you are and what you do, correct?